Quantifying Tailings Dam Risks at MIRA (Mining Insurance and Risk Association) one hour session took place on June 11th 2020. The talk presented a comprehensive approach to address how to quantify and prioritize tailings dam risks, especially in the context of large dams’ inventories.
In this blogpost we summarize the Q/A session that followed the talk, classified by theme. The full talk is viewable on Youtube
At the end we present a synthesis before some closing remarks.
Understanding geology and background
Q1: How much is the influence of site investigation in the risk assessment of dams?
A1: Site investigation, preliminary understanding of site’s geology, climate, hydraulics and extreme events is fundamental to future acceptable performance of a dam. Many failed dams had birth defects that showed-up later in their life, when a certain volume/height was reached. Many of those defects could have been avoided with a sustainable additional effort at investigation level, e.g. deeper boreholes.
Q2: What is the weight of the site investigation as a Key Performance Indicator (KPI)?
A2: Site investigation is not a single KPI. Many KPIs contribute to site investigation, so, it is difficult to give a specific number: the nature and details of the site investigation determine that “weight”.
Factors of Safety and failure rate of dams, likelihood
Q3: Does increasing the dam capacity, years after initial construction, reduce the FoS?
A3: There is no a priori answer to this question. One must perform analyses of the dam “as is” to reply.
Q4: What is the average failure rate of all tailing dams ?
A4: At Riskope we were the first in the world to evaluate the rate of failure of the world-wide tailings dams portfolio (Oboni, Oboni 2013). We ended up selecting two decades (around 1979, i.e. 1974-1984, and around 1999) as benchmarks for our ORE2_Tailings benchmarking exercises.
Q5: Determining probability of failure for investigation, design, construction, and O&M components is key in determining the aggregated probability of failure for the tailings management system (TMS). How were these probabilities of failure determined?
A5: Riskope uses their proprietary methodology to analyze the appropriate KPIs, combine causalities including ancillary water management facilities and finally yield the probability of failure of a dam. The probability transparently includes the uncertainties on the various KPIs.
Q6: How was the model back-tested against actual failures and what type of correlation to probability failure/year was observed?
A6: ORE2_Tailings is the result of over two decades of applied R&D. We have deployed it on tailings dams in the most diverse climate and structural conditions. We benchmark each result and we have evaluated several cases of catastrophic failures to see how the methodology responds to poor dams’ conditions.
Future of TSFs
Q7: Do you foresee in the future an increase or decrease of probability of failure of TSFs, an increase/decrease of consequences of failure of TSFs or both?
A7: this “multiple” question opens a Pandora’s vase. Let me try to answer in a concise and simplified manner. Modern dams, well studied, designed, built, managed and monitored have a probability of failure lower (better) than the world-wide portfolio. That probability of failure may worsen (become higher) if they are neglected, go unrepaired, with poor monitoring. The consequences of failure depend on the topography, land-use downstream, existence of a water body or water course downstream and many other factors. Thus, again, no possible serious answer if there is no risk analysis. Anyone claiming that larger dams are riskier, for example, if taking a hazardous shortcut easy to disprove by facts. Anyone claiming dams should be prioritized by their consequences, or by their probability, is also going down a hazardous alley.
Monte Carlo or other methods?
Q8: Do you consider some type of MonteCarlo assessment / probabilistic analysis are necessary to determine the FoS on the TSFs? And if yes should regulators request them? Is this a real way of considering geomechanical uncertainties?
A8: MonteCarlo is a tool like another. One can perform probabilistic analyses using various methods, as a function of available data and level of detail. Considering geomechanical uncertainties in developing the probability of failure is not sufficient and actually generally leads to overestimating the probability of failure. The issue is so important that we are writing a paper for Tailings and Mine Waste 2020, entitled “The Factor of Safety and Probability of Failure Relationship”. The paper goes back to the mi-eighties, when we published a very technical approach to this relationship. So, to put it in simple words, for us it is a 35 years old “pain in the neck issue”!
Failure modes and causality
Q9: Could you explain a little bit more about the Failure Modes as a design tool?
A9: Failure modes explain how a failure occurs, not why it occurs. We are preparing a piece on this which uses a medical example. For instance, heart failure is a failure mode of the human body, but the prior life style and other pre-existing conditions are the causes of that failure mode.
Applying this reasoning to tailings dams, we can immediately see that concentrating on failure modes may be good for a “designer”. Designers indeed try to eliminate weaknesses, failure mode by failure mode. However, that constitutes a censoring in a risk assessment. In a risk assessment we are interested in seeing how the many possible causalities lead to failure, not so much in how that failure occurs. Incidentally, the latest catastrophic failures forensic analyses have clearly shown that they occurred because of a complex interaction of causes and not because of a failure mode!
Technology adoption
Q10: In your opinion, do most mining companies with TSF’s use your quantitative analysis methodology to better understand the probability of failure?
A10: We have worked continuously in the mining arena since the mid-nineties:
tailings systems,
entire operations,
pits,
access roads,
railroads,
pipelines,
water treatment plants,
equipment.
We have a number of return mining and insurance clients and their number is growing rapidly. That is thanks to ORE2_Tailings and its seamless link to Space Observation. This link enables us to prioritize portfolios while reducing the need to extensive site visits. This is a particularly interesting feature in these times of pandemic and geopolitical turmoil.
Q11: Will engineers such as KP/SRK/BGC etc. use your modelling in their reports?
A11: We already have large engineering firms as clients and their number is bound to increase. Indeed engineering firms, large insurances or space observation companies willing to offer a “one stop service” to their clients derive great advantage from using ORE2_Tailings.
Summary of Q/A session on Quantifying Tailings Dam Risks at MIRA
The questions were extremely interesting and focused on practical aspects related to the use of ORE2_Tailings.
They ranged from the need for information to expected performances of the methodology, as well as its testing and “proof”.
Several questions indicated a need for predictive analyses which are precisely the reason for developing ORE2_Tailings.
Finally participants asked questions on the spread of use of the methodology. As a result, we ended-up indicating that Riskope is already cooperating with large mining companies, engineering firms, insurances, space observation companies willing to know more on their portfolios and to offer a “one stop service” to their clients. That is of course in addition to mining companies interested in knowing more about their portfolios and performing rational risk informed decision-making.
Closing remarks
Numerous participants asked “What about a next session?”.
We are ready to participate in next sessions and, incidentally, we could give these in French or Castellano. It will depend on the requests. Let us know.
I wasn´t able to see the video again
Is it possible to have the link. ?
Certainly ,this is the direct link https://youtu.be/11lsQouMcx0
Hello is there anything like an on-line seminar for this product I could book for my company?